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th awe th authenticated. >> do you think those words will affect trump ease in the votes. >> 89% of you think yes and 11% of you say no. the pulse is live, check it out on thank you for your time today. i am going to wrap this up and my colleague kate snow is taking on next. >> good afternoon to you everyone. well, no such luck. there are only 55 days left until election day. the trump campaign taking up many of the political headlines this hour. halie jackson is standing by on the phone. she's making her way to canton, ohio where donald trump will be tonight. donald trump touched down in
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flint, maichigan to talk about the water crisis. this morning, trump was in new york taping the doctor oz show set to air tomorrow. after a lot of speculation, he did release some medical information. and here is what one audience member said who was in the taping. >> i thought it was great that he came forward and doctor oz asked why he held back and he said he didn't feel it was necessary but because it is such an issue that there was no secret that he just -- he wanted it private so now he came forward. >> in a moment, we'll get the whole scoop from someone else who was in the audience. first, lets go to halie jackson, she's standing by on the phone. she's been chasing this story all day. halie, what do we know? >> hey, kate, we just arrived in canton, ohio where donald trump is appearing tonight. we know trump gave doctor oz a
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summary of his physical conditions. doctor oz was pleased and "happy" with trump's health. we learned medication that trump was taken for his cholesterol or rather over weight, the numbers we are hearing from audience are different a little bit. i think there are a couple of points here that trump himself delivered this information to doctor oz. this was not coming from his own doctor. he was choosing which information he was wanting to give. this is just a snapshot of donald trump's physical condition. this is not a full, comprehensive medical history. this is how he did in some of the testing that was conducted apparently at a physical last week's case. >> halie jackson is traveling in ohio. thank you so much. >> i want to bring in daniel did
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i say it right? >> tell us what you saw. >> absolutely. donald trump came out and doctor oz asked him what he does to stay fit and which donald trump said he made a lot of speeches and his hand gesturing is his main source. >> that's how he exercised. >> did he say about eating habits? >> he said he likes fast food. and when he travels a lot, he said you are not really sure when you go to nice restaurants and what you are getting at least something standard. oz talked about how every single thing on the list from his physicals just seem normal. >> lets talk about that list. >> you saw donald trump handing two piece of paper to doctor oz. >> doctor oz mentioned something about the physical and something
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about trump not releasing his records and donald trump came back in and said oh, if you want it, i have it right here. >> did it seem scripted to you? >> yes, it did. i think he knows what he's doing. he put it down and yes, great. i love to see them. he opened it up and he started going down the list and he went over ekg and blood pressure and cholesterol and all the number. this is normal and you are a little bit over weight and this is your height and that was it. >> doctor oz sentiment were this is pretty good health for someone his age. >> yes, he actually said, i wish or if i had a patient this exact situation, i would be very happy. >> do you remember what the weight was? >> i thought he said 267? my boyfriend said maybe it was 230. i thought it was 267 so i am not sure. >> did doctor oz comment on it?
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>> he said you are a little weight and there were questions in the audience about tackling obesity. trump has some plan tackling obesity, touching on it or going through details. >> his daughter was there as well. >> yes. >> when he kacame in and gave h a kiss and what happened? >> she came out, it was a little odd. donald trump gave her a hug and a kiss and doctor oz said oh, it is nice to see people still kissing their daughters or anything and donald trump said yeah, i wish i could kiss her more or i kiss her any chance i get. >> was she there to talk about the proposal about child care cause? >> she touched on the child care stuff and she touched on a lot of women's rights and health. she seems to kind of any time he will veer off and articulate
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what he's attempting to say in a different way. >> you recall trump saying he's not been to the hospital in years and years. >> right, since he was 11-year-old and had his appendix removed. it is nice getting the information from you. daniel, thank you very much for being here. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> i want to bring in our medical contributor, doctor john torr torres. lets talk about what daniel told us. it is a couple of sheets of paper if you look at that stilled photo of trump zsitting next to doctor oz. >> when you get something like this, it leads to more questions. >> i get this a lot and often time, you will have a sheet of what's your medical history and medicines and surgeries. it is a good starting point but it is a starting point. you need to go from there. >> from everything you heard from daniel of what they went
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over, does it sound typical of a candidate of that age? >> it sounds typical but again it is opening a lot of doors to a lot of questions that we don't have. have he gone through a screening test. have he done his immunization especially he will need of the shingles and shots, these kinds of things. >> so you will be listening to that. >> definitely and a need for more questions for the campaign. >> yes, and opening up more questions. that's what we want. >> doctor torres, thank you for being here. >> donald trump just arrived in flint, maichigan at this hour. he is touring the water plant. there is no time line for return to safe water without filters. nbc's blake mccoy is in flint for us covering trump's visit. >> what's the reaction so far
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even for trump coming there. >> reporter: the mayor calling this a photo op and distraction. she did not want trump to come. it was a last minute visit that we got late yesterday. so trump is here right now. i can show you the tail in the motorcade and inside trump is being given a tour of the facility. even though she was against the visit, a supervisor will still give him a tour. the plan is for trump to go to a local church that's serving as a water distribution site and it is there that presumably if he's going to meet with anyone from the community, that's where it would happen. although there is no public events scheduled for donald trump while he's on the ground here in flint michigan. we should point out that the mayor is critical of trump's visit. she's also on the record for
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hillary clinton's supporter. the mayor actually spoke at the democratic national convention. a little sense he's in hostility here. there are supporters and detractors all standing here on the corner waiting for his motorcade to leave. >> months ago, there were some trump fans. it is not entirely clinton but it is definitely clinton's country. hillary clinton is still resting in her home in new york today after she was diagnosed from pneumonia. for now, lets turn to kasie hunt. he's covering the clinton campaign today. we are learning when will clinton get back on the trail? >> reporter: we did, we are expecting her thomas hock back tomorrow in greensboro, north carolina. she's also expected to appear to a dinner in washington dc for
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the congressional hispanic caucus. in the mean time, we also had a little bit of news today about the clinton foundation that bill clint clinton, chelsea clinton and some members will be stepping down from the board of their activists. we have talked about them providing hiv and aid drugs to many people. the clinton campaign also trying to highlight some issues that recently been raised with donald trump's foundation. take a look at this new web ad. >> you probably heard trump talk about the clinton foundation that you might not have heard while he attacks one of america's top charities, his foundation has been fined for illegal dou illegal donations. >> she cashed the check and
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blocked the case and she tried to cover it up. so remember which candidate actually practices it. >> reporter: of course, the new york attorney general has opened an inquiry in donald trump. a portrait of himself that donald trump bought with foundation money and president obama making fun of that on the campaign trail, yesterday, kate. >> all right, kasie hunt outside of new york city. thanks so much. i am joined my by colleague from the new york times, reporter, msnbc contributor, jeremy. it is nice to see you. >> thank you, kate. >> we have a lot to talk about with donald trump going to doctor oz show and talking about his health a little bit. does health become the issue that dominates? >> i think it distracts us for
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the next few days and if donald trump releases his records how detail it is is deemed efficient. >> this is the most add presidential news cycle that you and i have ever covered. i don't doubt that much can hold our attention very long. one big question is in what form does trump release these medical records. when mccain released 11 pages of his medical records in 2008. those are his actual documents. if he releases something of his taxes and net's worth -- i don't think it is going to satisfy many people. >> in an analogous question, we have questions about trump's wife and her immigration status was always perfectly legit when
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she was here in the u.s. they released a letter who represented donald trump's company, not her's. no immigration record. they released this letter saying she's always been within the law. >> that's exactly right. i don't think that this issue ultimately has much of an impact and not just because she's his wife and wives are generally seen as less in play when it comes to police cal. we have so much more to disstradistract us from the health records to tax returns. it is just end less and so i think milani is taking a backseat considering all the issues that's on the table. >> jeremy, we got a clip coming in from the oz show which we'll air tomorrow. this is the moment where trump hands him the piece of paper. >> if your health is as strong as it seems from the review
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system, why not share your medical records? >> well, i have no problem doing it. i have it right here, should i do it? i adodon't care. [ applause ] >> it is two letters. one is the report and the other is from the hospital. >> may i see that? >> sure. >> those are all the tests that's just done. >> okay, jeremy, your reaction to that? looks a little scripted to me. that's what audience member said he felt in the room. >> right. the audience member you just interviewed also said that trump said some outrageous things in addition to that, gesturing is a form of exercising. what is he going to say next? using his knife and fork to cut food as a way of burning calories, it seems laughable and another way where he can invite
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ridicule with himself when he's not straight with the public. >> it becomes more of a reality show than it is. >> going on tv to release your or what you are saying are your medical doctor with a celebrity doctor. it is the epiphany of entertainment in this campaign. >> ohio, key state, does that surprise you? >> well, it surprises me in the way that this poll was conducted. they used, i believe 2,000 four levels of turn out. now, that skews the poll in a lot of different way. and assumes partially correctly that democrats are not as motivated and republicans are a little bit more motivated but again, how well 2004 translates to 2016, i don't know. i have had some independent pollsters who looked at this
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today say that it should be taken with a grain of salt. >> so ohio is tighter than that. it was not conducted in a way of ordinary poll. >> jeremy peters, it is always good to have with us. >> thanks so much. >> thank you kate. >> donald trump is touring a water plant and he may take some questions here. lets go ahead and listen in. >> first of all, i would like to thank you. >> i think we have a location where we would like to go and we can do that the next hour.
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i think that'll be fine. i want to thank the folks from flint and some very good executives that i really appreciate it. >> thank you for coming. >> thank you, i appreciate you coming. >> thank you. >> thank you. thank you everybody. >> okay, a little bit hard to hear there but this is live breaking news happening while we are talking. donald trump at a water treatment plant there in flint, michigan. she's suggesti he's suggesting the next stop he may take some questions. our reporter is with him. after the break, we'll are details out of news week. we are getting a lot of attention of conflicts of donald trump and should he win the presidency?
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there is a brand new report out in news week today detailed of trump's business deals could impact foreign policy if trump were elected president. news week documented his ties if he's elected. i want to bring in our senior writer, kirk, it is nice to see you and thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you said right at the top that trump is the most conflicted president of america's history. how do you mean? >> we have not had a president planning to maintain contact and maintaining ownership of a
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corporation that's dealing in businesses all over the world that's making partnerships all over the world with foreign entities are in turn connected to government. you are talking about a man who has massive financial conflicts of interest with american foreign policy and the question is always going to be is he going to make decisions based on what's in his financial interest and his kids' financial interests or based on what's good for america? >> roughly how many countries overall did you find ties to between the trump's corporation? >> i found so many that i was not able to get in all of them. >> that struck me in the article that you cannot list them all here. >> we ran out the pages in newsweek. we are talking about 500 of some odd subsidiaries of the trump's
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organization. all of which could have a relationship with a variety of different entities. i dug into about 15 countries. and, you know in all of those there were conflicts. the way i chose the countries, well, which ones have the most important national security issues. that's where they all turned out. >> lets dig into one because we don't have a lot of time. you mentioned trump's dealing of the turkish family. what's the possible conflict there? >> they have a close relationship with the president. the president of the turkey who came out when trump was there to dedicate their joint project and they have fallen out of favor of the turkish. the president now is telling them to take the trump name off of these hotels and take the trump's name down and there is a back and forth about that. one of this things i was told
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that the turkish president is angry because he's been linked to trump because making people in the country mad. >> the president want to distance himself away from trump. if there is a president trump, what i have been told that there is a good chance that our access to a critical air base in turkey will be cut-off. that air basis necessary for the bombing campaign of isis. >> cukurt. >> we are talking about the real thing here. >> trump maintained that he will take care of all of this. >> earlier today his daughter was on "good morning america" and here is what she said. >> we are not be holding to anyone's shareholders. we are going to do less deals. we are not going to do that deal even though it is a fine deal or economically reasonable because it could create a conflict of
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interest and we are acting incredibly responsibly and my father has said that he will put the company in to a blind trust and run by us. it is so much bigger than another deal with we all recognize that. >> other presidents have done that going back to lyndon johnson. they put things in a blind trust and they don't have any control into that. what do you say to that? >> donald trump is a businessman. he's smart enough to know what a blind trust is. that's not what they are talking about a blind trust means, i take a collection of investment and i turn it over to somebody who trade my investments and i don't know what's there and i don't know what i own and we move on. you are going to take a company and put it in a blind trust. what's in the blind trust? the company. it is like saying i put my wife in the blind trust, i don't know who i am married to anymore. secondly, ivanka trump's
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argument is well, we are going to know what's best for our national security. is donald trump plan to share classified intelligence with his daughter? if not, how is she going to know what's in the interest of the trump campaign and what creates conflicts for the united states of america? it is a ridiculous argument. >> corey lewandowski said this morning, he questioned your credibility essentially and he said you never fact check your article with the trump organization. true or false? >> i asked both the campaign and the trump organization for information. i received response from t trump organization and some of the information made it into the story. i was told it was off the record and i was not going to disclose that i spoke to them. corey got on the air and lied.
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therefore, that confidentiality is waived. i talked to them. the thing about i did not fact check. would it be nice for me to tell them what fact i got wrong. >> we are asking them right now. the trump campaign could argue that hillary clinton has a pass, two. she was secretary of state and all questions they raised about the clinton's foundation. how is that different from trump's situation? >> again, it is an absurd comparison. if i give a million dollars to the clinton foundation. $900,000 of that money goes to something like aids or drugs in africa. $100,000 goes to the administration of the clinton mou foundation. nothing go to the clinton's family at all. if you have a trump organization, the million dollar
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deal goes in the trump's family pocket. it is not comparable. we are talking about actual pay for possible play with the trump organization. there is no pay from the clinton's foundation. they are not getting any money. the clinton and the trump's are getting hundreds and millions of dollars a year. >> kurt, thank you very much, we'll post links to your article. we already did this morning. we appreciate your time. >> thank you for having me. >> colin powell leaked after a hacker broke into his computer. powell called trump "national disgrace." you are watching msnbc, the place for politics. it easier to g et here, the neighborhood is really changing. i'm always hopping on the train, running all over portland. i have to go wherever the work is. trains with innovative siemens technology help keep cities moving, so neighborhoods and businesses can prosper.
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powe powell, in june, powell call trump, "a national disgrace." >> powell's feelings were not related to trump. he related to hillary clinton for connecting her to the e-mail controversy. the differences is profound and they know it. nbc's kelley o' donnel is joining me now. kelley, there is a lot to talk about and more to come. what do we know so far? >> reporter: whether it is intentional or sort of stolen is sort of the topic of the day. these are hacked e-mails and personal window of a prominent figure. it happens to colin powell more than once. he endorsed president obama and though he is long thought to have been a republican and he's someone was expected to perhaps consider running for president himself. he was encouraged to do that and
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he served three presidents. so he's at a unique impliplace l of these corners. the sort of not meant for e-mails that have been hacked and published gave us a window into that. critical of donald trump saying the birther movement was racist and he's not prepared and he would if elected probably looking around and say what would i gotten myself into once he realize the task of being a president and that kind of criticism towards donald trump and towards the hillary clinton team there is a case of frustration although colin powell did use some form of e-mail when he was secretary of state saying that he felt dragged in with this term of minion softeninger e-mail use in her home. that's a controversy for more
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than a year. powell was expressing frustration as he was being brought of lessen the culpability of the decision she made. so it really takes you behind the scenes of someone who has had access to the highest level of power cape and willing to in an e-mail to let his guard down. kate. >> a reminder for all of us to watch what you write in e-mails. kelley o' donnel on capitol hill. the leaked documents were not limited to colin powell. the hackers who claimed to broken into the dnc computers during the primary released more hacked documents as well. it includes personal cell phone members of vp pick, tim kaine and personal addresses and cell phone numbers of top white house officials. donna brazil blames the russian government for the hack.
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richard engel is joining me now in new york. these ties to russians. we were talking during the break. it is not like one guy sitting in the room. >> no, some people calling them mercenaries or cyber pirates. they have an allegiance with the russian intelligence agencies. this is according to numerous intelligence agencies that we have spoken to and former hackers and security experts all say that russia is using and having this relationship with a group of russian and eastern european hackers. and, some of them are criminals and they continue to steal money and do their normal like what you consider cyber crimes. russia gives them protection for their cyber crimes. but, in exchange for that protection, they do russia's bidding. and in this case, it is political manipulation.
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the fact that colin powell's e-mail coming out right now in ahmad a middle of a campaign is no coincidence. the world doping agency has been hacked and information about american athletes was just released after so many russian athletes were banned. no coincidence. the person, the woman, a runner who was responsible for blowing the whistle on the russian team. not only had her information hacked but her whereabouts hacked. she's now on the run fearing for her life. this has happened on numerous occasions. the state department and the office of the chairman of the joint chiefs and three militaries in nato and all were attacked by the same group, the
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same syndicate, the same group of the cyber pirates. >> we believe that president obama has spoken about this with vladimir putin. they had a meeting of the g-sum subm summit >> well, it is hard to pin it down because they're using this resource. they're using in the u.s. tradition would be private tiers. you would have the navy and hiring pirates to do their own bidding. >> people without a country. >> but in exchange for doing services for you, they're allowed to keep stealing and doing their own privacy. finding the cullabpability and pinning this down. many ex perperts we talked to sg the group is pretty clear and they identified it and has close
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ties to russian intelligence. >> richard engel. thank you, this is fascinating. >> that's what it is known by. >> richard engel. thanks so much. the new york attorney general opens an inquiry of donald trump's financial problem. the trump campaign is calling it a left wing hit job. we'll get the details after the break. you can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. or... you can get the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back on ev-e-ry purchase, ev-e-ry-where. i shouldn't have to ask. what's in your wallet? your hair is still thinning. you may have inactive follicles.
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a clinton democrat. i am joined by a ari melber. >> we can show you the letters that went out. the issue here is donald trump basically spent $20,000 of this foundation's money on a very large painted portrait of himself. president obama was making fun of that yesterday. another $25,000 went to this political contributions and gotten a lot of attention. these are the kinds of things they are investigating. the last piece is not unusual but certainly is unusual. other time donald trump seized funding of this charity at all.
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this is och tther people's mone over eight years, he did not put in a dime. that raises a question of how did this unusual charity work and was it even a charity. that's where new york law comes in if it was not. >> it is unusual for the new york attorney general getting involved in something, is there precedent? >> it is unusual that we are talking about it in the national news. most small charities would do over sights and sending letters and seeing if there is fraudulent and even if it is wrong doing, it would be the kind of case that we should resolve with some sort of fine or making good. having said that, it is another area where donald trump's project, even his charitable project right up to or over the line of what's allowed. the politics being part of what
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people heard of. you cannot use charity to funnel money for politicians. >> right. >> just for the record, let me read what the campaign has said about this inquiry, they said snad sneiderman has endorsed republican thillary clinton. >> what does the office say to that? >> they say as we've reported, they have been doing this as a standard inquiry. there are two parts that you just read. whether it is a hack and people can debate that. part two is a serious allegation. that itself is a crime. that's a very serious charge, i can tell you having looked at
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this, the trump campaign offered no evidence for that serious charge. there is no conflict and no political problem of the attorney general doing his job and investigating people and sometimes people linking to politics. ari. pees appreciate it. sh sure. >> after the break, i will be joined by the congress of the donation, pam bondi. michelle obama was on ellen yesterday. ellen took it upon her self takitak taking the first lady to cvs to help the first lady getting ready to life. >> there is coupons and you need this basket. this is so good, i am preparing you. >> lets take this there. >> no, no. >> what is this for? >> what are we going to do with all this money? >> oh.
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they're investigation of trump's university. here is what we know happening. there is a report that the attorney general, pam bondi, was looking into these ripped off a told to drain their bank accounts and max out credit cards and complained to the attorney general as the top law enforcement officer. it was clear she was looking into it and the foundation made a contribution and days later announced she was not going to pursue the investigation. on the face, it's fishy. it looks like he made a payment and she decided not to go forward. if we can't count on them to stand up with my constituents and it looks like there was something that came in to see what laws might have been broken. >> they are pushing back hard on
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this and saying a couple of things. there was a clerical error made and we know she solicited the contribution. no one disputes that. this is an attempt to stand up for the people of florida when pam bondy decided to walk away from an investigation against a presidential candidate who made a lot of money cheating people out of their hard earned money from getting them to max out their credit cards to buy the fake course. it's so clear to anyone who looks at this that there was an
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investigation and a payment and the investigation stopped. if donald trump doesn't have anything to hide, he should encourage everyone to take a look at it, but he comes back with name calling as he engaged in when he went after the judge because of his ancestry. >> you are asking the attorney general of the united states to look into this. we know the new york attorney general is. have you gotten an answer some. >> not yet, but it's worth pointing out that the attorney general of new york looked into this and when he did, donald trump gave money to another group to launch attacks against him. the fact is that it's clear the way donald trump operates. he told us this repeatedly. this is not just another pay to play scheme. this is a pay to look the other way scheme. they are looking the other way when there were people who were being ripped off and the attorney general stopped that investigation and prevented any liability from occurring for his fake university and the people
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he took advantage of. >> thanks for your time. >> my pleasure. thanks. >> battle ground america. talking with voters in north carolina where a fight is under way for early voting rights there. stay with us. is that ice-t? nope, it's lemonade. is that ice-t? lemonade. ice-t? what's with these people, man? lemonade, read the sign. lemonade. read it. ok. delicious. ice-t at a lemonade stand? surprising. what's not surprising? how much money marin saved by switching to geico. yo, ice-t! it's lemonade, man! fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. whenpneumococcal pneumonia, it was huge for everybody. she just started to decline rapidly. i was rushed to the hospital. my symptoms were devastating. the doctor said, "pam! if you'd waited two more days, you would've died." pneumococcal pneumonia almost took me from them.
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donald trump in flint, michigan about to make an appearance, but for the moment, we are kicking off battle ground america tour here on msnbc. a new series taking a look at issues that matter most in key swing states that could play a in election day. we are in north carolina where early voting is a hot button issue. let's go to chris jansing on the ground. some counties in north carolina eliminated sunday voting and you have been talking about this. what are you hearing? >> this is forsythe county and there is anger and
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disappointment and people who belong to churching like this one who are old enough to remember what was sacrificed and what happened around the time of 1965. they are not going to go away quietly. they want to make sure everyone who wants to vote gets a chance. 70% of voters in north carolina voted early in 2012. that tells you how important it is. they thought it was celtsed because a law was thrown out by a panel of judges and that sent it back to the counties and this county did not allow all the reinstatement of sunday voting. when i talked to somebody who has been involved in the fight, those county meetings, she had never seen anything like it. take a listen. >> in the past they have been able to work through and compromise and come up with plans, early voting plans to serve the county. this time it's completely different. >> people cried.
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>> yes. board members were so stressed over the pressure they felt to comply with the party directives versus what they knew and understood about voters in their county and what the voters needed and wanted. >> why is it so important? this race is too close to call. if you look at the polls, less than a half point separates hillary clinton and donald trump. hillary clinton coming back to north carolina tomorrow. >> chris jansing outside of a church and let's go up to flint, michigan in the bethel united methodist church. >> i thought about it and seen around it and said did anybody else think of this, but it used to be cars were made in flint and you couldn't drink the water in mexico. now the cars are made in mexico and you can't drink the water in
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flint. that's not good. that's not good. it's terrible. flint is the birth place of general motors and once boasted the largest general motors plant anywhere in the world. by far the largest. in 1970, general motors employed 82,000 workers. 82,000. they were located in flint. it's a tremendous workforce. now there are less than 8,000 and 40% of the city's residents are living in poverty. the 8,000 is dwindling and that will be changed. more bad news for michigan today and i saw this when i was reading the papers. it was announced that ford -- and i have been talking about this and the reason i have been doing well in michigan is i had
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a great relationship in michigan. they are moving all small car production, all of it, 100%, to mexico over the next two to years. it just happened. we shouldn't allow it to happen. we shouldn't allow it to happen. they will make the cars and employ thousands and thousands of people not from this country. they will sell the cars through a weak border with no tax or nothing and we will have nothing but more unemployment in flint and in michigan. it's horrible. when we send our jobs to other nations, we are also sending our tax base that supports our infrastructure that includes our pipes that we get the water from. i met the most beautiful family and they are devastated by what happened with the water and it had a huge impact on them me


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